P.I.E (Paedophile Information Exchange)
PIE was set up as a special interest group within the Scottish Minorities Group by founder member Michael Hanson in Edinburgh, who became the group’s first Chairman. PIE received Government funding through the Scottish Minorities Group.
Since the majority of funding and members were from England, PIE relocated to London in 1975 where 23-year old Keith Hose became its new Chairperson.
Hose had connections with the Gay Liberation Front (GLF). GLF thinking questioned the family as the basis of an economic, social and sexual system and most of the GLF favoured the abolition of the age of consent altogether. At the time Patricia Hewiitt and Peter Tatchell were certainly members of the GLF’ and have confessed to being so.
Paedophile Action for Liberation had developed as a breakaway group from the Gay Liberation Front after some members of the GLF balked at the idea of having sex with under 4 year olds.
PIE was set up to campaign for an acceptance and understanding of paedophilia by producing controversial documents. But its formally defined aims also included giving advice, legal defence and counsel to paedophiles who wanted it, and providing a means for paedophiles to contact one another. PIE also dealt in large amounts of Child pornography between members for a hefty cut, and provided contact details for vulnerable Children.
By the mid 70s PIE , PAL and GLF members were in charge of Children’s Care Homes in Islington, Lambeth and Hackney under New Labour Councils with the predictable outcome that they became the most horrific places of Child sex abuse , rape , pornography and murder. Due to their ability to procure vulnerable Children PIE/PAL/GLF wielded a lot of political power and were fully protected by the Metropolitan Police. Any questions were met with allegations of homophobia.
By 1978 PIE/PAL/GLF had become affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties, now known as Liberty, with members attending meetings. The NCCL campaigned against newspapers’ treatment of the paedophile activist groups. Whilst affiliated with NCCL, PIE also campaigned to reduce the age of consent and oppose the proposed banning of child pornography. In 1978, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee, Harriet Harman Labour MP QC of the NCCL asserted that “childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage to Children”. The NCCL also proposed abolishing incest laws and Child pornography laws.
By 1983 Patricia Hewitt, Jack Dromey and Harriet Harman were no longer at the National Council for Civil Liberties and PIE/PAL/GLF lost their Political protection. The Tory MP Geoffrey Dickens had campaigned long and hard against PIE/PAL/GLF and had organised a petition of over one million signatures demanding their closure. Geoffrey Dickens MP also presented a dossier of evidence of Child sex abuse to the then Home Secretary Leon Brittan ( later Sir Leon). Leon Brittan was forced to act against PIE/PAL/GLF, but never acted on Dicken’s dossier and claims to have no memory of it. However Brittan did have to close down PIE and PAL and a couple of it’s Executive Committee received minor prison sentences for corrupting public morals.
The Metropolitan Police did seize membership and mailing lists from PIE/PAL/GLF in 1983, however the Met Police claim they destroyed the membership list and have given no account about the mailing list.
PIE and PAL claimed to have disbanded in around 1984, but had in fact gone underground. The GLF distanced itself from PIE and PAL and none of its members were ever prosecuted.
The Metropolitan Police seized the membership list and mail order list of the Paedophile Information Exchange in 1983. They claim they destroyed the membership list and have no copy of it – does that sound likely? However the http://ukpaedos-exposed.com website has done a great job in tracking down and exposing PIE members. Here are a small number of members below:
UPDATED – Click any of the red names to open up more information on each member
Members/Activists of P.I.E
Former PIE Chairperson and current pro-paedophile activist Tom O’Carroll
David Joy, 66 – once No2 in the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange. In 1984 he was jailed for 18 months for publishing obscene material in a PIE newsletter. In 1996 he got two more years after admitting indecent assaults dating back to the 80s. Then in January 2006 cops found 1,129 images of children aged one to 13 at his rundown flat in Loughborough, Leics. Some were in the level 5 category – featuring sado-masochism, torture or bestiality.
DR Morris Fraser – P.I.E founder member & leading child psychiatrist – had a criminal record for taking indecent photographs of children and assault in 1972. Good friends with both Napier, Waters and Righton
Terrence Waters – Former prep school teacher – Closely linked to several P.I.E members incl Andrew Sadler – adopted the alias “James Opphin daler”. The name contains an anagram of the word “paedophile”. In 1994 Waters was sentenced to ten years for possessing child abuse images and the sexual abuse of a 10 year old boy. In 2011 convicted for more sexual abuse against children at Allen House School –
More on Waters on this link
Michael Johnson – jailed for four years on six specimen counts of indecent assault against two boys aged nine and 11. In 1988 Dr Morris Fraser and Michael Johnson set up a sailing charity for disadvantaged boys called the Azimuth Trust based in Cornwall.
Andrew Sadler – Former teacher who was jailed abroad for sex offences against boys – Links to Fraser and Napier –
More on Sadler on this link
Leo Adamson helped set up Pie to distribute obscene pictures of young boys while John Parratt was a former vice-chairman of the organisation
Former chairman/leader Steven Freeman aka Steven Smith
John Morrison and Barry cutler – Members
Geoffrey Prime – Former member and KGB spy
Sir Peter Hayman – Several links to P.I.E and its members – Former High Commissioner to Canada
Notorious paedophile and TV presenter Jimmy Savile was almost certainly a full member of P.I.E
Peter Bremner (aka Roger Nash) Member level – Bremner has convictions for indecently assaulting children. Jailed for 6 months in 1994 with David Joy. in 1978 Bremner was given a three month prison sentence suspended for 2 years and fined £150 for indecently assaulting 3 boys, two aged 8 and one aged just 5
John Stamford – A former church minister published international guides for child molesters. He died before his trial. Stamford used a homosexual travel guide called spartacus as a front for a mailing ordering service offering information on child prostitutes in Thailand, Brazil and other nations. The organisation was alleged to have operated through a box number in London. The details of each of the members, including their sexual preferences, the desired age of the children and preferred countries of origin were stored on a computer. The members received personalised lists of children.
For more on Stamford and Spartacus magazine click here
Stephen King aka Stephen Gosling – so called child expert was a member of P.I.E. His unbelievable role was to advise UK judges on sentencing for paedophiles
Richard Bigham – Eldest son of viscount of Mersey admitted he was a member
Former Vicar and millionaire Michael Studdert –financial backer and member level
David Wade – The treasurer of P.I.E
Michael Hanson – First chairman (set up P.I.E. as a special interest group within the Scottish Minorities Group with Ian Dunn)
Keith Hose – 2ND Chairman In the PIE Chairperson’s Annual Report for 1975-6, Keith Hose wrote that ‘The only way for PIE to survive, was to seek out as much publicity for the organization as possible…. If we got bad publicity we would not run into a corner but stand and fight. We felt that the only way to get more paedophiles joining P I E… was to seek out and try to get all kinds of publications to print our organization’s name and address and to make pedophilia a real public issue.’
Ian Campbell Dunn – Co-founder (born 01/05/43 died 10/03/98)
Shortly before his death, Dunn, a prominent gay activist, became convener of lobby group Outright Scotland. In 1997, he condemned police over a camera surveillance operation in public toilets in Stirling which led to several gay men being charged – even though the investigation also revealed that some men had sex with a 13-year-old boy. In 1974, Dunn co -founded the Paedophile Information Exchange ( PIE) with Michael Hanson. It became the leading contact group for adults campaigning for the right to have sex with children. In an interview in 1997, Dunn admitted he and Hanson had agreed to facilitate research into sex with children.
Dunn was caught on tape bragging abut interfering with a fourteen-year-old boy. The existence of the tape caused him to abandon a libel action he had brought against a Sunday newspaper, which named him as a paedophile. The encounter itself does not seem to have been a one-off – at his funeral in 1998, a young man claimed Dunn had raped him when he was fifteen. Dunn also supported a paedophile magazine called ‘Minor Problems.’
Charles Napier One-time treasurer of PIE Charles Napier is alleged to have sexually assaulted boys whilst a gym master at Copthorne School. He became an English Language Trainer at the British Council and was convicted of sexual assault against minors in London in 1995 and investigated as an alleged member of a paedophile network operating in British schools in 1996. He set up his own school in Turkey and resumed English Language Training with the British Council after serving his sentence
Michael Dagnall · Tony Zalewski – Lee Edwards –Named in Daily Express, 26th August 1983
Bernard Haunch – Teacher – He was also a member of a group called the Paedophile Information Exchange but apparently claimed it was a discussion group
Dr Edward Brongersma (Deceased) – has written extensively in the area of sexuology, especially on pornography, ephebophilia, pedophilia and the age of consent. His books on this subjects include: Das Verfehmte Geschlecht (in German, 1970), Sex en Straf (“Sex and Punishment”, 1972), Over pedofielen en kinderlokkers (“On Pedophiles and Child Molesters”, 1975), and his last work is his magnum opus and entitled Loving Boys (two volumes, 1988–1990).
Peter Righton AKA Paul Pelham – Righton was the former director of education at the National Institute for Social Work, and a consultant for the National Children’s Bureau. Yet he was also a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which wanted the age of consent reduced to four. Righton published essays justifying paedophilia, which he called no more mysterious than “a penchant for redheads”. Police raided his home and found hundreds of letters between him and other paedophiles
Warren Middleton, one of PIE’s first London members – Creater of the Understanding Paedophilia (UP) magazine that was eventually replaced by Magpie
Michael Dagnall – Close friend and fellow abuser with Tom O’carroll Click this , it mentions Dagnall and P.I.E involvement @ page 19
Richard Travell – Active member status – Travell was handed a three-year community order in 2006 for possessing indecent images of children.
Alan John Doggett (1936-1978), conductor, composer and choir master. Leader of London Boys Choir – A letter in Magpie 10 reported and commented on the suspected suicide of Alan Doggett weeks before he was due to face child sex charges for having sex with a choir boy. Hit by train. Also has links to a certain Paul Raven aka Gary Glitter
C. J. Bradbury Robinson – American author who wrote several times for Magpie magazine – His pro-paedophile books include A crocodile of choirboys “Bare Knees, Boy Knees.” The latter offers an “unmatched” and “startling trip into the strange world of the Paederast,” says the description on Amazon, which has one used copy for sale for $500
Richard James – Writer at Magpie
Paul Green – Writer at Magpie
Peter Deathman – P.I.E member who was regulary visited in prison by Tom O’Carroll. Deathman served a 10 year sentence not for mere sexual abuse but for child stealing
Den Nichols – Author of paedophilia literature called “Towards a Better Perspective For Boy-Lovers”. Published in 1976. In its preface to ‘serious minded adult males who feel an existential attraction to young boys”. Copies were advertised and sold by P.I.E/Magpie for £1 each, including post & packaging
David Grove – AKA Robin Brabban – born 1904 – secretary and Ex treasurer of PIE
Michael Walker – London – Member level of P.I.E – He did not agree on certain issues of P.I.E but condemned hostility against P.I.E
Anthony Green – Somerset – He attended a meeting of P.I.E that was attacked by the Nation Front. He urged tolerance and understanding of paedophiles
William Thornycroft – He was disgusted at attacks on P.I.E. He was quoted “The sexual freedom of children was needed” – Member of Communist Party Gay Rights Committee in the 70′s
Robert Atkinson – Newcastle teacher was arrested for sexually abusing a 13 year old student. He was fined £200. The headmaster and staff however continued to support him after the his guilt. Member level status in P.I.E
Ian Harvey – P.I.E member – He sought to differentiate bewteen “good paedophiles” and pedarasts, but without defining his terms or explaining why
Micky Burbidge – He supported P.I.E’s proposal to abolish the age of consent laws. Also wrote a book entitled “Evidence on the law relating to and penalties for certain sexual offences involving children for the Home Office Criminal Law Revision Committee” with Kieth Hose
Frits Bernard (1920 – 2006) was a Dutch psychologist,sexologist, homosexual activist, and pro-pedophile activist.Together with the lateEdward Brongersma, he laid the foundations of the emancipation movement of boylovers in the Netherlands.
Keith Spence – He applauded the “courage” of the leaders of P.I.E in the face of ; quote – Hysteria, hostility and violence, also wrote several paedophile articles for Magpie about sexual abuse of young boys
Jane Rule – Canadian Writer of lesbian-themed novels and non-fiction. Co author of Magpie: Journal of the Paedophile Information Exchange – Also supporter of NAMBLA (The North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was founded in December 1978 and is an activist homosexual and pedophilia coalition group. Their primary aim is stated to be the overturn of statutory rape laws and reduction of “age of consent” laws that require a child be of a certain age (which varies by state) before they can agree to sexual intercourse.
John Finnin – Co author of Magpie: Journal of the Paedophile Information Exchange
Peter Saxon – Co author of Magpie: Journal of the Paedophile Information Exchange
Kenneth Plummer – Involved with O’Carroll. He stated “Any study that can take adult-child sexuality out of the zone of shrieking horror and place it in the demystified zone of everyday experience must be welcomed”. sociologist Dr Kenneth Plummer of Essex University, sent a “warm message of support” for “Betrayal of Youth,” and, in company with Nettie Pollard and Professor Donald West (qv), also read, made suggestions and then praised “Paedophilia the Radical Case” receiving “heartfelt thanks” from its author, Paedophile Information Exchange Chairman Tom O’Carroll. Attented several P.I.E meetings
Dr Brian Taylor – Sociologist Brian Taylor adopted the pseudonym “Humphrey Barton” when he was research director of the PIE magazine “Understanding Paedophilia,” being co-opted to its executive committee. Another contributor to his book was a PIE EC member from 1976-77: Peter Righton, who was Director of Education at the National Institute for Social Work. He contributed a chapter entitled “the adult.” He too is quoted in praise of Tom O’Carroll’s book. Attended at least one P.I.E meeting
Named below linked due to being mentioned by Spartacus magazine when mentioning P.I.E click here for source
Ralph Alden – PIE member who ran a one man “Gay Youth Help Service” in London.
Tony Zalewski – P.I.E EC member
Richard Travell – P.I.E member
Roger Lawrence – PIE member who fled to Holland in the early 1980s and joined Spartacus, presumably at around the same time as ex-PIE leader Steven Smith. Lawrence used several aliases, and was arrested in his car at Dover in 1987 with notorious Swiss paedophile and sadist Beat Meier. The car was searched, and along with a large collection of child abuse films and magazines, the police found a three year old boy hidden under a blanket. The boy was called Dimitri Thevenin, and had been kidnapped from his parents’ house in Paris. Unbelievably, Roger Lawrence wasn’t charged and was allowed to go free.
Paedophile Action for liberation
PAL was founded in 1974, within the South London Gay Liberation Front. It was very lively, but rather small and local. It held regular and none too dicreet meetings in a Brixton squat. It did not survive its first press expose and its remnants merged with PIE in 1976
Douglas slade – Secretary of P.A.L (paedophile action for liberation), (former navy catering official) told members, ” You’ve got to be honest to yourself. If you want sex with children, dont bottle it up – just do it”. Linked strongly to the Paedophile information exchange
Ian Melville – Another P.A.L member who boasted of expeditions to nudist camps to chat up youngsters. He says he worked as a teacher, and two local authorities as a child welfare officer. He talks about P.A.L meetings where displays would be shown of naked young boys under 16 yrs old.
christopher Skeaping – Another P.A.L member who even took a “young boyfriend” to a meeting. In 2009 he was jailed for 5 years after a series of attacks on a 12 year old boy.
David bloomfield – Author of P.A.L ‘s “action programme”,which seeked to make paedophilia legal. Bloomfield boasted at meetings of his prowess at picking up children – and his hobby of peeping at children from his office in St James in London.
John Hall – P.A.L member who attended several meetings carrying a expensive camera. He made it clear that he was a practising paedophile and would proudly show of pictures of nude boys.
Click this for: The Paedophile propaganda machine in magazine
During the 1960′s and decades before the internet, the general thought was that paedophiles acted alone, but by then they had already set up a sophisticated and well organized worldwide network, that involved thousands of paedophiles. The distribution of pro-paedophile propaganda had begun to spread like it had never done before – Click above link for Paedophile “travel guide” on where best to abuse children and how much it would cost
Click this for Magpie issue 11 May 1978
19 september 1977 – Police hold back outraged mothers as they attack members of the paedophile information exchange with eggs , stink bombs and rotten-eggs as they arrived for their first open meeting in London at the Conway hall in Red Lion square
Paedophile Information Exchange
The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) was a UK pro-paedophile activist group, founded in October 1974 and officially disbanded in 1984.In January 2006 the Paedophile Unit finally arrested the last of its members on child pornography charges, with David Joy warned by his sentencing judge that his beliefs may preclude his release ever from jail.
Early history and activity
PIE was set up as a special interest group within the Scottish Minorities Group by founder member Michael Hanson, who became the group’s first Chairman.
Since the majority of enquiries were from England, PIE relocated to London in 1975 where 23-year old Keith Hose became its new Chairperson. Hose had connections with the South London group of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF). GLF thinking questioned the family as the basis of an economic, social and sexual system and certain sections of GLF favoured the abolition of the age of consent; their youth group had staged a march in support of this demand (however, it should be noted that the age of consent for homosexuals was 21 at the time, in comparison to 16 for heterosexuals).
Paedophile Action for Liberation had developed as a breakaway group from South London Gay Liberation Front. It was the subject of an article in the Sunday People, which dedicated its front page and centre-spread to the story. The result was intimidation and loss of employment for some of those who were exposed. It later merged with PIE.
This exposé on PAL had a chilling effect on PIE members’ willingness for activism. In the PIE Chairperson’s Annual Report for 1975-6, Keith Hose wrote that ‘The only way for PIE to survive, was to seek out as much publicity for the organization as possible…. If we got bad publicity we would not run into a corner but stand and fight. We felt that the only way to get more paedophiles joining P I E… was to seek out and try to get all kinds of publications to print our organization’s name and address and to make paedophilia a real public issue.’
A campaign to attract media attention was not effective at that time, but Hose’s attendance at the 1975 annual conference of the Campaign for Homosexual Equality (CHE) in Sheffield, where he made a speech on paedophilia, was covered at length in The Guardian.
In the same year Hose also attended a conference organized by Mind, the national mental health organization, where it was suggested that PIE should submit evidence to the Home Office Criminal Law Revision Committee on the age of consent. PIE submitted a 17-page document in which it proposed that there should be no age of consent, and that the criminal law should concern itself only with sexual activities to which consent is not given, or which continue after prohibition by a civil court.
PIE was set up to campaign for an acceptance and understanding of paedophilia by producing controversial documents. But its formally defined aims also included giving advice and counsel to paedophiles who wanted it, and providing a means for paedophiles to contact one another.
To this end it held regular meetings in London but also had a ‘Contact Page’, which was a bulletin in which members placed advertisements, giving their membership number, general location, and brief details of their sexual and other interests.
Here some of real ads that were used
No. 273 Energetic middle-aged male sincere and discreet Iks boys 8-15 yrs and the various ways in which they dress. Int swimming. Wld lk to hear from others with similar ints.
No. 390 Male. Interested public school type boys, 12-16, either in football shorts or corduroy trousers, wd like to meet young male, 20-30, with similar interests. (S W London/Surrey).
No. 379 Male Int girls 6-13 wd lk to correspond/meet others with similar interests; music, sports, fashion, Hi-Fi, photography, dance, reading, films. (Blackpool).
No. 373 Doctor, male. Poet and author, interested photos little girls in white pants and little boys out of white pants. Wd like to hear from male or female with similar interests. All letters answered. Perfect discretion. (Reading, Berks).
No. 401 Anglican priest, south London, anxious to meet other paeds for friendship and help.
Replies were handled by PIE, as with a box number system, so that correspondents were unidentifiable until they chose to exchange their own details. Since the purpose of this contact page was to enable paedophiles to contact one another, advertisements implying that contact with children was sought and advertisements for erotica were turned down. The Contact Page ultimately resulted in a prosecution for a ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’.
PIE produced regular magazines that were distributed to members. The original Newsletter was superseded in 1976 by Understanding Paedophilia, which was intended to be sold in radical bookshops and be distributed free to PIE members. It was mainly the concern of Warren Middleton, who attempted to make the magazine a serious journal that included extracts from sensitive paedophilic literature and articles from psychologists with the aim of establishing respectability for paedophilia.
When Middleton ceased active work with PIE, Understanding Paedophilia was replaced by the magazine Magpie, which was more of a compromise between the proselytising of the earlier publication and a forum for members. It contained news, book and film reviews, articles, non-nude photographs of children, humour about paedophilia, letters and other contributions by members.
In 1977 PIE produced another regular publication called Childhood Rights. When the editor (‘David’) retired, this content was assimilated into Magpie.
In 1976 both PIE and PAL had been asked to help the Albany Trust to produce a booklet on paedophilia which was to have been published by the Trust. This collaboration was ‘uncovered’ by Mary Whitehouse, who alleged that public funds were being used indirectly to subsidize ‘paedophile groups’. The Albany Trust was partly supported by government grants. The Trustees decided not to publish the booklet, saying that it wasn’t sufficiently ‘objective’. A year later a question relating to the incident was brought up in Parliament by Sir Bernard Braine but, despite a statement by Home Office Minister Brynmor John that there was no evidence of public money going to PIE, the issue was drawn out into 1978 in the letters pages of The Guardian and The Times.
For pro-paedophile propaganda click this link for Tom O’Carroll – Paedophilia ; The radical case.
Affiliation to the NCCL
Patricia Hewitt – Former Secretary of State for Health
By 1978 PIE and Paedophile Action for Liberation had become affiliated to The National Council for Civil Liberties, later rebranded as Liberty, with members attending meetings. The organisation was headed by future government Minister Patricia Hewitt (pic above) and it campaigned against newspapers’ treatment of the Paedophile activist groups. Whilst affiliated with NCCL, PIE also campaigned to reduce the age of consent, arguing that “childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage”. The organisation also argued for incest to be decriminalised and argued that sexually explicit photographs of children should be legal unless it could be proven that the subject had suffered harm or that the an inference to that effect or to the effect that harm might have been caused could reasonably be drawn from the images themselves. NCCL excluded PIE in 1983
Before she became an MP, Harriet Harman (pic above) was the legal officer in the late 1970s for the National Council for Civil Liberties. When Harman joined NCCL in 1978, PIE, the Paedophile Information Exchange, had already been affiliated for three years. Another group, Paedophile Action for Liberation, a Gay Liberation Front offshoot, had also been affiliated to NCCL until it was absorbed by PIE. PIE, which campaigned for adults to have sex legally with children, only broke off its relationship with NCCL when it went undercover in 1982, the same year that Harriet Harman left her NCCL post to become Member of Parliament for Peckham.
So when the Protection of Children Bill was put before Parliament in order to tighten the laws on child pornography by banning indecent images of under-16s Harriett Harman was at the forefront of the NCCL response. Signed by Harriett Harman in April 1978, the NCCL’s formal response to the Government proposals to reform sex laws dubbed a “Lolita’s Charter” was unbelievable.
Harman argued that, “…childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage…Although this harm may be of a somewhat speculative nature, where participation falls short of physical assault, it is none-the-less justifiable to restrain activities by photographer which involve placing children under the age of 14 (or, arguably, 16) in sexual situations. We suggest that the term ‘indecent’ be qualified as follows: – A photograph or film shall not for this purpose be considered indecent (a) by reason only that the model is in a state of undress (whether complete or partial); (b) unless it is proved or is to be inferred from the photograph or film that the making of the photograph or film might reasonably be expected to have caused the model physical harm or pronounced psychological or emotional disorder.”
NCCL people were earlier involved in keeping the name of an NCCL council-member, Jonathan Walters, out of the People newspaper when it ran an exposé of Paedophile Action for Liberation, of which he was secretary, in 1975. The People still ran the story, but Walters was not named. Even more extraordinary is the fact that a current Cabinet Minister was running the National Council of Civil Liberties at the time all this was going on.
Here are her Motoring convictions, which proves she is certainly being “looked after”
In 2003, Harman was fined £400 and banned from driving for seven days after being convicted of driving at 99 mph (159 km/h) on a motorway, 29 mph (47 km/h) above the speed limit.
In 2007, Harman was issued with a £60 fixed penalty notice and given three penalty points on her licence for driving at 50 mph (80 km/h) in a temporary 40 mph (64 km/h) zone. Harman paid the fine several months late and avoided appearing at Ipswich magistrates court. Harman was again caught breaking the speed limit the following April, this time in a 30 mph zone, receiving a further 3 points on her driving licence.
In January 2010, Harman pleaded guilty to driving without due care and attention in relation to an incident on 3 July where she struck another vehicle whilst driving using a mobile phone, she admitted the offence in court becoming the first serving Cabinet minister in memory to plead guilty to a criminal offence. Harman was fined £350, ordered to pay £70 costs, a £15 victim surcharge and had three points added to her licence. Road safety organisations such as Brake condemned the leniency of the punishment and decision to drop the charge of driving whilst using a mobile phone. The judge defended the decision stating “Ms Harman’s guilty plea to driving without due care and attention included her admitting that she had been using a mobile phone at the time”
Jack Dromey, (pic above) whom Harriet Harman married in 1982, and who was Treasurer of the Labour Party, was also involved with the NCCL. He served on its Executive Committee from 1970 to 1979, so he was there when the decision to invite the two paedophile groups to affiliate was made. NCCL also set up a gay rights sub-committee at the same time, members of which included prominent paedophiles Peter Bremner (alias Roger Nash), Michael Burbidge, Keith Hose and Tom O’Carroll. And of course Walters and Locke were on the Executive.
Who else was involved ?
Legal action against members
In the summer of 1978, the homes of several PIE committee members were raided by the police as part of a full-scale inquiry into PIE’s activities; as a result of this inquiry, a substantial report was submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions and the prosecution of PIE activists followed.
In particular, five activists were charged with printing contact advertisements in Magpie which were calculated to promote indecent acts between adults and children.
Others were offered lesser charges of sending indecent material through the mail if they testified against the five. These charges related to letters that the accused exchanged detailing various sexual fantasies. It eventually became clear that one person had corresponded with most of the accused but had not been tried. After the trial, it emerged that there had been a cover-up: Mr “Henderson” had worked for MI6 and been a high commissioner in Canada.
Steven Adrian Smith was Chairperson of PIE from 1979 to 1985. He was one of the PIE executive committee members charged in connection with the contact advertisements; he fled to Holland before the trial.
In 1981 the former PIE Chairperson, Tom O’Carroll, (PIC BELOW) – Full profile on pervert ‘Carroll here ; was convicted on the conspiracy charge and sentenced to two years in prison. O’Carroll had been working on Paedophilia: The Radical Case in the period between the initial police raid and the trial. While the charges did not relate in any way to the publication of the book, the fact that he had written it was listed by the judge as a factor in determining the length of his sentence.
PIE’s Tom O’Carroll says age of consent should be 0, and 4 yr olds can give consent
In 1975 the delegates at the second annual conference of the Campaign for Homosexual Equality held in Sheffield were challenged by Keith Hose of the Paedophile Information Exchange to stand if they could honestly say they had no sexual interest in children. According to the local paper, one third of the 1,000 delegates remained in their seats.
In 1984 The Times reported that two former executive committee members of PIE had been convicted on child pornography charges but acquitted on charges of incitement to commit unlawful sexual acts with children and that the group’s leader had fled the country while on bail. It was announced that the group was closing down in the PIE Bulletin as of July 1984.
In 1978-9, the Paedophile Information Exchange surveyed its members and found that they were most attracted to girls aged 8–11 and boys aged 11–15. In 1978, Glenn Wilson and David Cox approached Mr O’Carroll with a request to study the PIE membership. A meeting was held with the PIE leadership to vet the survey instruments and, after approval, these were distributed to PIE members in the course of their regular mailing. Wilson and Cox went on to use the data in writing their book, The Child-Lovers – a study of paedophilies in society.
The EPQ and a lifestyle questionnaire were completed by 77 members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), a self-help club for men who are sexually attracted to children. Compared with control males the paedophiles were significantly introverted and high on P and N. Examination of individual items revealed that PIE members were more likely to be shy, sensitive, lonely, depressed and humourless, but they were not particularly troubled by guilt, obsessionality or worry about their looks. Individual variations within the paedophile sample were also found. Those who were high on P and low on E were interested in younger children and were less able to contemplate sex with adults. Paedophiles high on N were less happy about their sexual preference and were more likely to have sought treatment.
Charles Oxley (head teacher) who infiltrated PIE suggested it had over 1000 members worldwide (Oxley was member no.909?), 200 of which were in Scotland. Oxley almost got the full membership list before a journalist blew his cover.
He noticed some members were sending memos on Home Office notepaper.
Wandsworth jail which housed O’Carroll colluded with him to smuggle paedophile literature in and out.
The Home Office refused to outlaw PIE.
Scotland Yards Obscene Publications Squad were furious that attorney general Sir Michael Havers refused to press charges against Peter Hayman.
Home Secretary Willie Whitelaw refused to name Peter Hayman (so Geoffrey Dickens MP did).
Indeph look at those members Click RED links for more info on each member
December 2007 – Paedo’s ‘life’ term slashed
A PERVERT who led a campaign to legalise sex with kids was smirking behind bars last night after his “indefinite” jail term was slashed to A YEAR.
David Joy, 66 – once No2 in the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange or PIE – was warned earlier this year he may die in prison after admitting child porn offences. But three Court of Appeal judges ruled the indefinite sentence was inappropriate – as Joy had only accessed porn for himself and was not a serious danger to the public.
Leo Adamson, left, helped set up Pie to distribute obscene pictures of young boys while John Parratt, right, was a former vice-chairman of the organisation
July 2011 – Stephen Freeman/Barry Cutler/John Morrison
John Parratt, 63, a former vice chairman of Pie, also known as Warren Middleton, was jailed for 12 months for having indecent images
Leo Adamson, 49, a former executive member of Pie, was found guilty of failure to disclose a computer password and was jailed for a year at an earlier hearing.
The former leader of the paedophile pressure group Pie was jailed after becoming the first person to be convicted for making drawings of children being raped.
Detectives found 3,000 drawings at Steven Freeman’s home, where he held weekly meetings to view and trade images of child abuse. The images were described at the Old Bailey as “vile and disgusting” and were amongst the worst seen by police, they said. Some 14,500 pictures and films were found on computer discs there and at the address of two of his paedophile ring
Freeman, 57, previously known as Smith, the chairman of Pie, was given an indeterminate term for public protection. He was given a minimum term of 30 months after pleading guilty to specimen charges of possessing indecent images, having prohibited drawings, distributing indecent images and failing to disclose the password for an encrypted computer.
John Morrison, left, and Barry Cutler, right
John Morrison, 44, was jailed for 24 months after he admitted having indecent images and failure to disclose a computer password.
Barry Cutler, 60, pleaded guilty to three offences of having indecent images and failure to provide a password, and was jailed for 15 months
Geoffrey Prime – Hereford
A KGB spy whose perverted actions in Hereford led to his downfall, is back in the news.
Moscow’s key British agent, Geoffrey Prime, was jailed for 35 years in November 1982 after admitting he had been selling secrets to the Russians for 14 years.
Prime was also a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange and had a card index of 2,287 young girls whom he targeted by phone.
Imprisoned for three years for indecently assaulting three young girls, including a 14-year-old Herefordshire girl – Released in 2001.
Child sex case men jailed
Two pro child sex campaigners were yesterday (1984) sent to prison where they knew they would face a hate campaign from other prisoners. Peter Bremner (pic above) and David Joy had tea thrown over them by inmates of the jail where they spent the night before being sentenced
Sir Peter Hayman
In 1978 a packet containing obscene literature and written material was found on a bus. The subsequent police investigation revealed a correspondence of an obscene nature between Sir Peter Hayman and number of other persons. The papers involved an obsession about the systematic killing by sexual torture of young people and children.
Another cover up ?
A very dubious and defensive reply from the The Attorney-General when asked by the MP of Huddersfield in April 1981 whether the Director of Public Prosecutions gave special treatment to Sir Peter Hayman by taking steps to prevent his indentity being revealed in court.
Attorney-Generals reply :
No special treatment was afforded to Sir Peter Hayman and no steps were authorised or taken to protect his identity in evidence given to the court during the trial of O’Carroll and other members of the executive committee of PaedophileInformation Exchange. I made this clear in answers I gave to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price) on 6 April—[Vol. 2, c. 682–83.]—to which I refer my hon. Friend.
Furthermore, although the indictment in that case was amended before trial, this was because Treasury Counsel had doubts, following a preliminary hearing, as to whether the wording of the original charges might, as a matter of law, be open to objection. The amendment did not arise from any wish to protect the indentity of any person.
The material of a pornographic nature found in the possession of Sir Peter Hayman was not relied on by the prosecution at the trial. There was, so far as the Director of Public Prosecutions is aware, no evidence whatsoever of Sir Peter Hayman having received or sent by post any obscene photograph of a child or young person or of his having taken such photographs or of his having committed any other act which might have been an offence under section 1 of the Protection of Children Act 1978. The mere possession of obscene material whether relating to children or adults is not in itself a criminal offence.
The Director’s decision not to take proceedings under the Post Office Act against Sir Peter Hayman and others was taken in January 1979 before he received any papers relating to the activities of O’Carroll and other members of the executive committee of PIE.
Does UK justice still cover up for the establishment ? March 1981 – The Montreal Gazette
It was perhaps most notoriously summed up in the obituary posted after the death of Sir Peter Hayman in the Times of April 9, 1992: “…a distinguished diplomatic career… knighted in 1971… Deputy under secretary FCO… High Commissioner to Canada until 1974… retirement damagingly disrupted… police raided his flat… discovered he was a member of Paedophile Information Exchange… 45 volumes of diaries, entries relating to sexual experiences”.
Jimmy Savile member of the Paedophile Information Exchange – an Organisation which campaigned for the abolition of the age of consent in the UK
October 18, 2012
The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) is embroiled in a child sex scandal centred on Jimmy Savile, its anchorman on many popular entertainment shows for over thirty years. Now new information is surfacing which indicates that Jimmy Savile was a fully paid up member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (P.I.E) – an organisation which campaigned for the abolition of the age of consent in the UK.
The letter below has been sent to Lord Patten, Chairman of the BBC Trust. In it I have stated “I am placing this information before you in this open letter as I feel that the BBC should now initiate a full investigation into these reports suggesting that during the 1970’s and early 1980’s the BBC’s editorial policy was influenced in favour of P.I.E. This alleged infiltration of the BBC by P.I.E might also explain how Savile was able to operate as a sexual predator during his extended tenure at the BBC without challenge and/or prosecution.”
I will pursue my objective of securing a full investigation into the alleged membership of Jimmy Savile of the organisation, P.I.E. I will also continue to seek a full and open investigation of the influence, if any, that P.I.E exerted on BBC editorial policy during the 1970′s and 1980′s. I also expect the authorities to investigate whether any BBC employees were members of P.I.E or expressed sympathy and support for the aims and objectives of P.I.E.
Further links are set out at the bottom of this email.
MICHAEL .H. MURRIN
21 GOODWOOD AVENUE. PRESTON. PR2 9TZ
The British Broadcasting Association Trust
The BBC Trust Unit
180 Great Portland Street
12th October 2012.
Dear Lord Patten,
RE: BBC / Jimmy Savile.
This is an open letter, i.e. I do not regard it as confidential and reserve the right to publish it. There are some parts of it in italics, these sections I do regard as confidential and, as such, they will not be published.
During 1982 I initiated an investigation into corruption in public life which resulted in the criminal prosecution of some high profile figures for offences against children, including serial child rape.
I turn now to the reason for my writing to you at this point.
My investigation led me to the fringes of the Paedophile Information Exchange (P.I.E), an organisation whose history is a matter of public record. The organisation was founded during October 1974 and officially disbanded during 1984.
Due to a lack of financial support my investigation into PIE was severely limited although I did secure two names on the membership list of the organisation, one was Jimmy Savile. One of the key aims of the organisation was to secure a reduction of the age of consent in the UK to FIVE and then abolish it altogether. The organisation secured significant support within parliament, the entertainment industry, the media and similar, professional, organisations. It was reported that, when the organisation was finally closed down, the membership list was found to contain the names of nationally known politicians, entertainers and people engaged in professions, including the medical and legal profession. Some teachers were, I believe, also found to be registered members. The quality and influential nature of its membership and the extent of support for the aims of the organisation among ‘opinion formers’ probably explains how it managed to remain in existence in this country for a decade before it was finally closed down. My investigations did clearly indicate that the tentacles of P.I.E extended deep into the establishment including the BBC and Parliament.
This quote from the book Paedophilia – The Radical Case (Chapter 11) gives an indication of just how far the tentacles of P.I.E had spread and how influential the organisation had become.
“One outcome of the MIND conference was the suggestion to Keith that PIE should submit evidence to the Home Office Criminal Law Revision Committee on the age of consent. With amazing despatch Keith did exactly this, preparing and submitting the seventeen-page document discussed in Chapter 6 in a matter of weeks, without the benefit of research time or facilities at his disposal. What’s more, we have it on reliable authority that his work caught the imagination of no less a figure than the Home Secretary of the time, Roy Jenkins.”
The source who notified me that Savile was a fully paid up member of the organisation is extremely reliable. Other sources implied that Savile’s membership of P.I.E was known to others within the BBC who were either sympathetic to its objectives or were members themselves. This might explain why there appeared to be no effective pursuit of the organisation by BBC sponsored current affairs and investigative programmes during that period of P.I.E’s existence.
I am placing this information before you in this open letter (except for the parts in ITALICS) as I feel that the BBC should now initiate a full investigation into theses reports suggesting that during the 1970’s and early 1980’s the BBC’s editorial policy was influenced in favour of P.I.E. This alleged infiltration of the BBC by P.I.E might also explain how Savile was able to operate as a sexual predator during his extended tenure at the BBC without challenge and/or prosecution.
It has been reported that Savile was responsible for the sexual assault of a brain damaged child at Stoke Mandeville Hospital. It has been stated “it can get no lower than this.” I beg to differ. My understanding is that the archive at New Scotland Yard hold an image of the youngest child recorded as being sexually abused, the child was female and was still attached to its mother by the umbilical cord. Perhaps there is some way to go before we reach the bottom of this “cesspit?”
I do expect and formal and comprehensive response from you within a reasonable time period. A copy of this letter has been forward to The Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Mr Bernard Hogan-Howe.
Michael H. Murrin
Child sex men found guilty over article – Glasgow Herald dated November 1984
Campaigners against P.I.E
March 2004 – Stephen King (pic below) Child sex ‘expert’ is jailed for girls’ abuse – member of the Paedophile Information Exchange. His unbelievable role was to advise judges on sentencing for paedophiles !
Will Great Britain’s paedophile scandal bring down Lord Carrington? December 13, 1983
Peers son is sex case “revolted” – July 1978
Peter Righton/Paul Pelham (pic below) – Child care expert fined over photographs of naked boys
Magistrates at Evesham, Worcestershire, heard that the material included copies of a recognised paedophile magazine and photographs of young boys under the age of 16 posing partly dressed or naked. Peter Righton, 66, of Badsey Road, Evesham, admitted two illegal importation charges and one charge of possessing obscene material. He was ordered to pay pounds 75 costs and the magistrates ordered that the magazines should be destroyed.
Dec 2006 – Former vicar jailed over child pornography
A former vicar has been jailed for four years over his role in amassing a huge “Aladdin’s Cave” of child pornography.Millionaire Michael Studdert was convicted along with paedophile rights campaigner Thomas O’Carroll, who received a two-and-a-half-year prison term.
Ian Campbell Dunn
Pioneering Scottish lesbigay campaigner Ian Dunn died suddenly in Edinburgh on Tuesday 10th March. He collapsed as he was leaving Edinburgh Royal Infirmary whence he had been discharged after receiving tests for shortness of breath and chest pains. He was readmitted, but doctors were unable to revive him.
He was a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange, he believed in the rights of sexual minorities to organise politically.
Educated at Hillhead High School in Glasgow, Ian worked for a time for the Met Office at Prestwick Airport and later in London. If he had remained with the Met Office, his next promotion would have been to present TV weather bulletins.
However, he moved to Edinburgh, attending Heriot Watt University where he studied Town Planning. Unfortunately, his work in co-organising the world’s first International Gay Conference in 1974 meant that he neglected his studies and didn’t graduate – something he was careful to hide from his parents. Nevertheless, he worked for many years in the City’s planning department until he took early retirement during the recent local government reorganisation.
In 1969, he was a founder member of the Scottish Minorities Group (which became the Scottish Homosexual Rights Group and is now OUTRIGHT Scotland). He was Convenor of OUTRIGHT Scotland at the time of his death and played a pivotal role in the organisation over the years. His main success was in persuading Robin Cook to move the amendment to the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 1980 which decriminalised sex for gay men aged 21 and over, but he continued to lobby for complete social and legal equality for homosexuals.
When he agreed to act as ‘postbox’ for a paedophile theoretical journal called Minor Problems (which had been expelled from its previous mailing facility), he was the subject of a front page expose by the Sunday Mail and, although he sued the paper, he later quietly dropped the action
Charles Napier – former envoy for the British Council in Cairo, was imprisoned for nine months in 1995 for two offences of sexually abusing a boy under the age of 16. He had enticed the boy to his home in Surrey during the 1980s. Napier was once treasurer of the PIE network
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NCAT Deputy President Nancy Henessey later recursed for having private meetings with gay child sex normalization activist Burns and was not a fit and proper person to make that ruling – as covered on VGB:
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“A German company has since taken over Spartacus International and transformed it into a respectable publisher of gay guides.” Indeed one link mentions that
“Throughout the 60’s and 70’s the gay scene was ultimately exploited by paedophiles that wanted to share their visions and perverted ideologies on child sexual abuse.” To call these bozos gay instead of exploiters is intellectually dishonest.
“In 1978-9, the Paedophile Information Exchange surveyed its members and found that they were most attracted to girls aged 8–11 and boys aged 11–15. “.hardly solely homosexual huh?
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